2. What is the Party belief about the proles?
3. Describe the one time that Winston held real evidence of an act of falsification.
4. What is the heresy of heresies? Why is that terrifying to Winston?
5. For whom does Winston realize he is writing his diary? Why? Is this a good idea?
6. What is the final, most essential command of the Party?
7. Describe what happens when Winston goes to the antique shop, and who he sees when he comes out. What's the importance of the paperweight with a piece of coral in it?
Winston believes that the hope for Oceania lies in the lowest class, the Proles. They are the greatest in population in comparison to the other classes, and therefore have the greatest chance in rising up against Big Brother. Winston sees the expansiveness in the Prole's society and hopes they rise up against the leadership.
ReplyDeleteUsually people would believe that hope lies in the upper class, because they have more money and power compared to the proles. You're right when you say that it is greatest in population, giving them the biggest chance to rise up against Big Brother. Many people would not understand why Winston believes this.
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DeleteAgreeing to what Natalie stated you would think that Winston would set his hope in people who would have more power instead of the numbers. The hope that Winston had was all laid upon the Proles because of their big population they had. Even thought they were the lowest class Winston believed that the numbers of the Proles could overpower Big Brother. Which to me seems a little ironic, but the more there is in number the more rebellion there would be.
Delete1. Winston believes that the hope for Oceania lies in the lowest class, the Proles. They are the greatest in population in comparison to the other classes, and therefore have the greatest chance in rising up against Big Brother. Winston sees the expansiveness in the Prole's society and hopes they rise up against the leadership.
ReplyDelete6. The most essential and final command of the Party is to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears.
I thought it was weird that Winston thought that the Proles would rise up and go against The Party. I just don't think that all of those people would have the confidence to rise against them.
Delete2. The proles are people who aren't really a part of Oceania, but they make up a majority of the population. The party teaches people that they hold no importance and are ultimately "natural inferiors who must be kept in subjection like animals" (Orwell 91). The party doesn't really speak, associate, or teach much about them because the proles want to overthrow the government
ReplyDeleteThe party treatment of the proles seems to me, very similar to the way a farmer treats his cattle. They're valuable as far as their usefulness. I'd imagine the proles are a important source of labor and seeing as how they're a huge portion of the population are most likely a big source of economic importance. But i disagree that they want to overthrow the government. As far as i can see the regime keeps them confined and places rules on them, but otherwise seems complacent to let them continue in their ways.
Delete1. Winston, in 1984, believes the hope of Oceania lies with the Proles, the lowest class of Oceania. Proles make up more than 80 percent of Oceania's population. He does not think that the party can be overthrown from within. He thinks that if the Proles come together and fight the Big Brother as one unified power they could bring some major changes to the way things are in Oceania.
ReplyDeleteI agree that Winston holds hope in the proles and I think a major factor for this specific placement of hope is that the proles are still living in what can be seen as the past. They understand how life used to be and this holds all of the power for convincing people to rebel against the current government. The proles have the numbers as well as the ability to prove that life was better before Big Brother took control of society.
Delete2. The party believes that Proles are the lower class and are inferior to them. The party teaches the people that they are not significant in Oceania and hold no importance. They are described as "natural inferiors who must be kept in subjection, like animals."(Orwell, 91)
ReplyDeleteSince there are more Proles in Oceania it is interesting that they are viewed as insignificant. Proles could potentially lead an uprising which is why the Party brainwashes with their slogan to believe that they are better off with their lives and that Big Brother is constantly watching them.
DeleteWinston believes that hope only lies with the Proles. Since they make up over 80% of Oceania's population, Winston thinks that if anyone could overthrow the government, it would be the Proles and their mass numbers.
ReplyDeleteWhile I do believe that Winston thinks that the Proles would be able to overthrow the Party due to their numbers, I think that he also believes that the Proles are more reminiscent of old world (pre-Party) life and ideals and thus would more more likely to want a return to such
DeleteWinston believes that the major heresy of heresies was common sense. Not that you would be killed for thinking otherwise, but that you would be wrong.
ReplyDelete1. Where does Winston think hope lies? Why?
ReplyDeleteWinston believes that if there is any hope to overthrow the party and return to a pre-revolution lifestyle and government, it lies in the proles. He believes this because the proles are the members of Oceania that are most reminiscent of life before The Party and Big Brother and Thought Police. The proles are members of society who the Party pays no particular attention to. They sing while doing laundry, they are shop owners (presumably) that sell pre-revolution items, they live life without constant surveillance from the party. It would be easiest for them to plan a successful revolt thanks to their abundance in Oceania's population and the little attention they receive from Party members.
I agree with Winston that if any hope was there for the people of Oceania that it stood with the proles. If I were a citizen in Oceania I would be a prole. I honestly don't know why everyone isn't on the same rebellion level as the proles. Maybe it is just because I wouldn't be able to do laundry without singing, and of course all of the other basic human rights Big Brother takes away. ;)
Delete1. Winston thinks hope lies within the proles, as they are the only part of the population large enough to overthrow the party. This name seems to be derived from the proletariat, the name of the lower working class by Karl Marx.
ReplyDelete2. The party believes the proles are not intelligent enough and are content enough with their standard of living to overthrow the government. In fact, they place very minimal observation on them compared to the upper classes.
3. Winston remembered events that had happened before the party's takeover that contradicts something that the party had previously reported. This however seems to be worthless in the face of Doublespeak.
4. To question statements by the party and Big Brother, even if they make logical sense. Such as believing that 2+2=4 when the party says that 2+2=5.
5. Winston realizes he is writing his diary for O'Brien. He felt that it was the right thing at the time.
6. 2+2=5!!!
7. The paperweight is a relic from before the party's takeover. It represents something that doesn't hold an objective use, except for its beauty. Winston sees this as something that reminds him of his memories from before the party's takeover.
I believe that the paperweight represents old world (pre-Party) ideals and a bygone era of life that the Party has stamped out
Delete2. The party thinks of the proles as not a threat to the regime they have set up because of the impoverished state that they have been left in now. Many proles themselves do not know that they are being controlled by the party.
ReplyDeleteI always find it interesting how for divided the Proles are from the regime itself. Who would think that being the lowest of classes would benefit!
DeleteFor whom does Winston realize he is writing his diary? Why? Is this a good idea?
ReplyDeleteWinston realizes he is writing the diary for O'Brien because he feels connected to him. He thinks they both share the same suspicions about the Party especially when he heard him say "we shall meet in the place where there is no darkness." I think in general, it's a good idea for him to write about how bad and controlling the society is so it can be documented unlike so much of the past, but I don't think it was a good idea for him to write specifically to O'Brien.
Winston believed that the Party could not be overthrown internally, but that such a hope lied within the ranks of the Proles. The Proles, the lowest class of Oceania, make up a large majority of the population. Winston believes that they would be the most inclined to see a return to how life was before the Party, and that if they came together they would be able to bring down Big Brother.
ReplyDeleteYes Nathan, I agree that the proles coming together could bring back to how life used to be, and it all starts by throwing off the Party.
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ReplyDeleteWhere does Winston think hope lies? Why?
Winston thinks hope lies in the proles. Since the proles is a bog group of people that are "unnamed" , Winston believes that the proles are the only ones big enough to overthrow the Party and make an attack.
I agree fully with you Juan Pablo. It is ironic that the lowest of classes is the one where all of the hope lies. If they were to rise up, the regime would be very surprised and I think the Proles would have a good chance do to there numbers!
DeleteWhat is the heresy of heresies? Why is that terrifying to Winston?
ReplyDeleteCommon sense. "Goldsteinism" was the heresy of heresies. It emerged that "Goldsteinism" was created by Big Brother to entrap opponents of the regime.
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ReplyDeleteWhere does Winston think hope lies? Why?
ReplyDeleteWinston believed that the hope of a government overthrows lies in the hands of proles who constitute over 80% of the Oceanias population. Winston saw how badly his country was controlled by the government, and the policies that kept most people ignorant of what was ACTUALLY going on. He saw that the most effective form of government was democracy. He wanted rule by the people themselves, instead of separation of government.
1. Where does Winston think hope lies? Why?
ReplyDeleteWinston thinks that hope lies with the proles. Considering they are the lowest class and have the largest numbers, they are the only group that stands a chance of rising up against Big Brother and the totalitarian government. They lack the constant surveillance that plagues the rest of the society, and live their lives in a much more care free manner than those who are above them.
2. What is the Party belief about the proles?
The party believes that the proles are insignificant. They could never pose a real threat to the regime; at least not while kept in poverty or less than conditions.
2. The party believes that the proles are nobody's in Oceania. They make up most of the population, but do not have the basic social skills to become a threat to the party. They are pretty ignorant people, but they are content with their lives. The party just sees them as a impoverished lower class group of people.
ReplyDelete1. Where does Winston think hope lies? Why?
ReplyDeleteWinston says in book one that hope lies within the proles. The proles make up majority of the population, they are not within the Party and the Party wants nothing to do with them. They are what is left of the old world, a world Winston wants to remember. Proles are allowed to have emotions, drink alcohol, have relations, etc. To the Party the Proles are animals, even beasts, for doing such things. Winston hopes that one day the Proles will have influence and show that having emotion is okay for a society, not the demise.
1. Where does Winston think hope lies? Why?
ReplyDeleteWinston believes that hope lies within the Proles due to them being the most populated to destroy Big Brother and turn against them. Also, in the Golden Country within his dreams because of the freedom from Big Brother and different atmosphere to escape the dystopian society.
1. Winston's hope lies in the proles. The proles make up more than 80% of the population in the Oceania and are the lowest class. Winstons hope is that the proles can gain the confidence to band together in an effort overthrow the totalitarian government. His hope for the proles is if they WERE to overthrow the government, that they would create a democratic government. Winston believes the most effective form of government is a government in which the people have the say in government rather than the government controlling everything.
ReplyDelete1. Winston believes that the majority of the population of Oceania which is known as "the proles" are the hope for his revolution. Though they are the lowest class the proles make up 80% of the population in Oceania. This causes Winston to believe that they stand the strongest chance against the government due to their numbers. He also believes that the proles have the largest amount of hatred towards the government.
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